[Neonshrimp]

I have lost about 4 nerites due to exposure to the dewormer :( That's why I am thinking about trying some new nerites from your wish list ;)

[Sounguru]

I beginning to wonder if it is like a copper thing once in the tank it is in for good.

[Neonshrimp]

In time I think I will test this out but I will wait for several more months and many more water changes :hmmmmmm:

[Wet Pet]

Has any one tried this ? I used it 1 time in an attempt to controll detrius worms. I did not know the proper dosage at the time and od'd a bn pleco. he was stiff for a week but has since raised several spawns.

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[Neonshrimp]

I just read about it and it seems like it has a broader effect on parasites than fenbendazole but I would personally stick with what works for me.

Here is the info page I found.

Another reason there was an OD effect may have been because it is made for horses.

Did it get rid of the worms?

[Wet Pet]

I od'd the fish because I did not research the dosing :th_smiley_sigh: that was my fault. However it did get rid of the detrius worms for about 1 week.

A member on another forum gave me this dosing info
Dose rate is .005mg/L for three days with WC's on Day 4. Dose rate is built up over three days.
Prepare a stock solution by diluting 1ml of ivomec into 19ml of dsitilled water. This will yeild a stock solution
containing .5mg/ml.

Day 1 - 0.3ml of the 1/20th stock solution per 20G's
Day 2 - 0.3ml of the 1/20th stock solution per 20G's
Day 1 - 0.2ml of the 1/20th stock solution per 20G's
Day 4 - Do a large WC.

This should kill the worms and not your fish. Note that the 96hr LC50 for various fish species are:
Rainbow Trout - 0.0032mg/L
Sheep[shead Minnows - 0.015mg/L
Channel Catfish - 0.024mg/L

So as you can see you don't have much room for error - but all fish are different depending on Size, Water Temp, and
Ventilation rate.

I tried this again after the pleco was doing better and moved into another tank I added 5 feeder goldfish to the tank and at the posted dosing it worked well, it was a month before I saw another detrius worm in the tank.

NOTE
I have not tried this med on inverts so I don't know if it is toxic to them or not.

[SummitMicroFarm]

Did any of you (Neon, Soun, or anyone else?) have ostracods in those dosed tanks?? I am wondering if that would also wipe the thriving colony of ostracods out. I have read on a few other forums that it might work for ostracods and I wanted to see if any of you have had experience. Thanks
Thanks for a very interesting thread! :tumup:

[Jeff]

I had copepods and an experimental heavy dose (0.5 grams/gallon - 20 times what I needed to kill hydra and planaria) in a container with only the copepods had absolutely no effect on them.

[SummitMicroFarm]

Jeff, on 02 February 2010 - 04:21 PM, said:

I had copepods and an experimental heavy dose (0.5 grams/gallon - 20 times what I needed to kill hydra and planaria) in a container with only the copepods had absolutely no effect on them.

Excellent Jeff!

Exactly the data I was looking for. I am still a little unsure whether I have ostracods or copepods. Either way, that is good data...Thanks! :tumup:


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[AquaGirl]

Hope this helps.

Size: 0,1 - 0,2 cm, 0.04 - 0.1 inches

Seed shrimp are tiny seed shaped crustaceans. They are usually a bit bigger than Copepods. They move in a same fashion as Copepods, eating all kinds of nice things from the glass/plant/etc. surfaces and you can see them walking inside the substrate too. Sometimes they swim in open water looking like drunken bees.

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[Sounguru]

[quote]Did any of you (Neon, Soun, or anyone else?) have ostracods in those dosed tanks?? I am wondering if that would also wipe the thriving colony of ostracods out. I have read on a few other forums that it might work for ostracods and I wanted to see if any of you have had experience. Thanks
Thanks for a very interesting thread! :tumup: [quote]

No it didn't effect any inverts in my tanks except the worms and the nerites....

On a side note all but one of the tanks are still clear. The one that isn't I did a complete tear down rinsed the sand and then reset so my theory is that the medicine stays in the tank for a very long time and unless you clean it completely you may never have a planaria out break again.

[SummitMicroFarm]

Hey guys and ladies...
I have been missing you all very much. As some of you prolly read in my new Sulawesi post, I recently dosed fenbendazol (dog dewormer) in my Sulawesi Cardinal tank to rid it of hydra. It is 100% successful and I found no ill effects on my shrimp or Sulawesi snails. I did however have an interesting side discovery...I had stocked 4 poso orange snails in y tank for 2 weeks before i dosed for hydra, and before that a good friend had these snails for a year. After I dosed fenbendazol, I noticed two parasites on one of my poso orange snails. They had never been seen before either by myself or their previous owner. These looked like BRIGHT red/orange zits on the snails face (mantle). One of them fell off after the second day the meds were intro'd and layed on the gravel. The second stayed on until day 4. I had then added carbon to the HOB to suck the meds out. This parasite was/seemed a little stronger than the other and stuck to the aquarium class. They are big enough to be seen by the naked eye, but too small to see their exact shape and structure. I took out the ole net and netted them both out. The move by an inch worm type of locomotion. I then scoped them under a childs microscope. These things look almost exactly like a tiny little squid. They even have 4 little tentacle looking arms sticking out from one end. I searched the web up and down and ALL my aquaculture sources and found ZERO info on these parasites. just something you all should be aware of. I would have never even known my snail was infected until I dosed the tank. Just food for thought.

[Neonshrimp]

Welcome back Summit and thanks for sharing your experience with the fenbendazol and the FYI about your parasite issue. See you around the forums.

[AquaGirl]

SummitMicroFarm, on 22 July 2010 - 07:41 PM, said:

Hey guys and ladies...
I have been missing you all very much. As some of you prolly read in my new Sulawesi post, I recently dosed fenbendazol (dog dewormer) in my Sulawesi Cardinal tank to rid it of hydra. It is 100% successful and I found no ill effects on my shrimp or Sulawesi snails. I did however have an interesting side discovery...I had stocked 4 poso orange snails in y tank for 2 weeks before i dosed for hydra, and before that a good friend had these snails for a year. After I dosed fenbendazol, I noticed two parasites on one of my poso orange snails. They had never been seen before either by myself or their previous owner. These looked like BRIGHT red/orange zits on the snails face (mantle). One of them fell off after the second day the meds were intro'd and layed on the gravel. The second stayed on until day 4. I had then added carbon to the HOB to suck the meds out. This parasite was/seemed a little stronger than the other and stuck to the aquarium class. They are big enough to be seen by the naked eye, but too small to see their exact shape and structure. I took out the ole net and netted them both out. The move by an inch worm type of locomotion. I then scoped them under a childs microscope. These things look almost exactly like a tiny little squid. They even have 4 little tentacle looking arms sticking out from one end. I searched the web up and down and ALL my aquaculture sources and found ZERO info on these parasites. just something you all should be aware of. I would have never even known my snail was infected until I dosed the tank. Just food for thought.

Hi Summit, good to see you! :happy0045: We missed you.

What an interesting post. I think that the effects of hydra in a shrimp tank are underrated, most times. Glad that you were able to rid your tank of them.
I found it very interesting that you found parasites on your snails. I have read accounts of people who suspected that they had problems with their shrimp because of suspected parasitic or bacterial contamination from snails. Shame that they were too small to photograph!

Thank, for sharing this with us. :tumup: